Bible Prophecy

Russia is not in Ezekiel 38

The popular teaching of Ezekiel 38 asserts that “Gog” is a Russian President, and that “Magog” is the land of Russia. However, the Bible itself teaches nothing of the kind.

Using the principle of letting the Bible interpret the Bible, we come to a different conclusion as to the identity of Gog, and the location of Magog.

Here are “Gog” and “Magog” in their context as seen in Ezekiel, Chapter 38:

The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech [Turkey] and Tubal [Turkey]; prophesy against him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army — your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia [Iran], Cush [Northern Sudan] and Put [Northern Africa west of Egypt] will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer [Turkey] with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah [Turkey] from the far north with all its troops — the many nations with you. ~ Ezekiel 38:1-6.

Using the principle of letting the Bible interpret the Bible, we see ZERO verification anywhere in scripture that Gog and Magog refer to Russia. To the contrary, hidden in plain sight in the end-times book of Revelation (and completely ignored by the Western church) are the words of Jesus Christ himself, whereby he is (figuratively) jumping up and down, waving his arms, and screaming for us to direct our end-times attention to Turkey, not Russia! He does this by personally dictating seven letters to seven specific churches, all of which are in Turkey.

The seven churches of revelation are in modern-day turkey

The seven churches of Revelation are in modern-day Turkey. (Image Source: holylandphotos.org) Locations circled by alwaysproventrue.com.

Let me repeat that. Jesus addressed not one, not two, not three, but SEVEN letters to direct our end-times attention to Turkey! Even though the figurative envelopes into which Jesus placed these seven letters have very specific addresses on them (all of which are in Turkey), this specificity contradicts our Western tradition of expecting the Antichrist to come from a revived Roman Empire based in Europe, and of expecting Russia to lead an invasion of Israel, therefore we simply ignore this specificity and allegorize these letters as being addressed to “the church.”

No less an authority than Jesus Christ himself tells us the nation in which Satan has his throne– Turkey, not Russia!

And to the angel of the church in Pergamos [Pergamum] write… I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat [throne] is… where Satan dwelleth. ~ Revelation 2:12-13

Pergamum is in Turkey, not Russia. If Jesus Christ himself tells us that Satan is headquartered in Turkey, why do we insist on moving him to Russia? The Bible is 66 books by 40 authors written over many centuries. Not one verse in the Bible is written in a vacuum. In other words, if you find something in the Bible you don’t understand, you will find the answer somewhere else in the Bible. This is using the Bible to interpret the Bible. Using this method, it is impossible to conclude that “Gog” and “Magog” refer to Russia.

When I have bent Judah for me, filled the bow with Ephraim, and raised up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece [The Hebrew “Yavan,” which is Ionia, in modern-day Turkey, not Russia!]… the LORD shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning… The LORD of hosts shall defend them… [Since Messiah is personally participating in this battle, this happens on the day of the Lord.] ~ Zechariah 9:13-15

They of Persia [Iran] and of Lud [From the Assyrian “Luddu,” which is the Turkish “Lydia,” which is in Turkey, not Russia, and not Europe!] and of Phut [Northern Africa west of Egypt] were in thine [the Antichrist’s] army, thy men of war: they hanged the shield and helmet in thee; they set forth thy comeliness. ~ Ezekiel 27:10

The Ezekiel 38 battle happens at the day of the Lord, and the ring leader will be Turkey, not Russia. And for those who say the Ezekiel 38 battle occurs before the day of the Lord, not during the day of the Lord:

Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken. ~ Ezekiel 39:1-8

When this battle happens, Messiah (Jesus) will be the Holy One in Israel, not the Holy One of Israel. Messiah is the on-scene commander of this battle. He is there. Ezekiel 38 happens on the day of the Lord.

And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. ~ Ezekiel 38:18

Messiah’s face is a physical attribute– just like the wound Thomas touched in the upper room, just like the feet that will touch the Mount of Olives. Messiah is physically present in the Ezekiel 38 battle because it happens on the day of the Lord.

“Gog” is the Antichrist, who will be the leader of Turkey, not Russia. “Magog” is Turkey, not Russia. Ezekiel 38 happens on the day of the Lord.

Please note, I used the Bible to interpret the Bible. I did not use commentaries to interpret the Bible. Using the Bible to interpret the Bible, we see that Turkey beats Russia by a knockout for the Magog title. However, even if I used extra-Biblical scholarly sources, we still see that Magog is in Turkey, not Russia.

The Holman Bible Atlas places Magog in modern-day Turkey, not Russia.

The Holman Bible Atlas places Magog in modern-day Turkey, not Russia. (Image source: Holman Bible Atlas as shown in World Net Daily (WND) article “The Truth About Gog And Magog,” by Joel Richardson. Read entire article at WND by clicking image.)

New Moody Atlas Of The Bible Magog In Turkey

The New Moody Atlas of The Bible places Magog in modern-day Turkey, not Russia. (Image source: New Moody Atlas of the Bible as shown in World Net Daily (WND) article “The Truth About Gog And Magog,” by Joel Richardson. Read entire article at WND by clicking image.)

IVP Atlas of Bible History Magog in Turkey

The IVP Atlas of Bible History places Magog in modern-day Turkey, not Russia. (Image source: IVP Atlas of Bible History as shown in World Net Daily (WND) article “The Truth About Gog And Magog,” by Joel Richardson. Read entire article at WND by clicking image.)

Zondervan Atlas Of The Bible Magog in Turkey

The Zondervan Atlas of the Bible places Magog in modern-day Turkey, not Russia. (Image source: Zondervan Atlas of the Bible as shown in World Net Daily (WND) article “The Truth About Gog And Magog,” by Joel Richardson. Read entire article at WND by clicking image.)

When we let the Bible interpret the Bible, we see zero Biblical foundation for the popular assertion in today’s American churches that Magog is Russia. The Bible repeatedly points us to Turkey, not Russia, as the ring leader of Israel’s end-times enemies.

The Bible is always proven true.

21 replies »

  1. I absolutely believe that Ezekiel 38-39 Gog-Magog occurs on the day of the Lord. This is confirmed by comparing what occurs in Ezekiel with what happens in a number of other Bible books, particularly Zephaniah 1 & 2–but other books also.

    The Holy One “IN Israel” is a nice catch. Ezekiel 39:8 is the only place in the Bible where this is stated.

    I am 90% convinced that Magog is Turkey.

    Good job!

      • You are correct.

        If Ezekiel 38-39 is describing Armageddon (and there are infallible proofs in Scripture that say that it is), there WILL be armies from the uttermost, extreme north…Revelation 19 says they come from all over the entire earth.

        Psalm 2 tells us:

        “The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.”

        Jesus said in Luke 19:

        “But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.”

        This culminates at Armageddon.

        The kings of the earth and mankind’s armies are gathered to fight Jesus and the armies of heaven. They come from the south, east, west and north.

        Revelation 19:19…

        “And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.”

        Him that sat on the horse is Jesus.

      • Jeremiah, Russia is mentioned nowhere in the Bible as being judged and crushed by God. Every single nation that is mentioned specifically by name is a Muslim nation. To the contrary, Putin is energetically reviving Christianity in Russia. The end battle will be between the cross and the crescent over the cause of the Star of David.

  2. jeremiahjames2013,

    Thank you for the kind words. I have read the Bible cover to cover, and I study it every day and write about it– but I had never noticed the word “in” appearing in Ezekiel 39:7 until I heard Walid Shoebat teach about it.

    The problem I had was that I formerly studied the Bible according to the template I heard from Bible teachers. This is the exact opposite of what we are supposed to do. Acts 17:11 shows us that we must use the Bible to verify what Bible teachers say– not use Bible teachers to verify the Bible. I have loyalty to no church movement, denomination, or eschatological paradigm. If what I hear from a teacher does not match what I read in the Bible, I discard what the teacher says, not what the Bible says.

    For example, the Bible clearly, unambiguously, and repeatedly asserts that the church will go through the Great Tribulation. Therefore, I am post-trib. Yet, not one of my favorite Bible teachers is post-trib (at least not that they admit). So I differ on this issue with every one of my favorite teachers.

    The Bible is also crystal clear that the Antichrist will be Islamic; that his empire will be a revived Ottoman Empire based in Turkey (not a revived Roman Empire based in Europe); and that Ezekiel 38 happens on the day of the Lord, not prior to it. On these issues, I agree with Walid Shoebat and Joel Richardson. Yet most American Bible teachers refuse to even consider the mountains of Biblical evidence for these paradigms. Nor will they even consider the fact that there is zero Biblical evidence for a revived Roman Empire based in Europe. The reason for this denial? I believe the reason is pride. People have a very hard time admitting they are wrong.

    I pray that God opens the eyes of many more American Bible teachers to the Bible’s clear and repeated teachings that:

    1) The Antichrist will come from a revived Ottoman Empire (not a revived Roman Empire).
    2) The church will absolutely go through the Great Tribulation.

    Thank you, and God bless you!

    • The preponderance of evidence from the Bible is that we will go up before the 7 year tribulation.

      Paul said the’ things that happened to them -in the OT-were for our EXAMPLE.'(typology)
      Enoch was translated into heaven in Gen.5 BEFORE the great flood-a type of judgment and tribulation. Jesus talked about these events of Noah and the flood in relation to the end times ‘just as it was in the days of Noah so will it be in the days of the Son of Man…”’.
      Lu.17:26;28

      Elijah was taken up alive into heaven BEFORE the SEVEN years of famine which was certainly’ tribulation; then. So two of three grand “EXAMPLES.” l Corthians 10:11;Romans 15:4; Hebrews 10:1 Gen.7:1-10 SEVEN more days to repent BEFORE the flood.

      The third is: Even backslidden Lot ‘escaped’ the fire and’ judgment’ from God on the cities of the plain. God said I can do “NOTHING [judgment]until you arrive there.” Gen.19:16-22

      Joseph was a type of Christ and he took his bride BEFORE the SEVEN year famine. Gen.41:45 Christ will take His bride the church before the SEVEN year tribulation -an’ example.’ His father was Jacob and it is called the time of Jacobs trouble’ harking back to the 7 year famine which was certainly a ‘time of tribulation’ lasting 7 years! Jer.30:7

      Rachel by faith trusts the Lord and she leaves the city BEFORE it burned down and it’s walls fall. Again, SEVEN is in the picture as it says they circles the city SEVEN more times THEN it falls. Rev.16:19

      Dual fulfillment-“Come my people enter your chambers(‘in My Father’s house are many rooms or chambers…there will I receive you to Myself’) ; hide yourself…until the indignation(storm- tribulation) is PAST.”
      I believe this can be dual both as to the saint that go up to heaven and the /Jews who ‘escape’ the tribulation. We have a resurrection first then the people are told to ‘come-‘ which means go away; go forth; go now. “Come-Heb.)
      Isa.26:19;21 seals it as end times: a. resurrection-b. hiding away0a little while 7 years… then the” Lord comes from out of His place.” Rev.19

      Nebuchadnezzar commanded all bow to his image which uses 6’s to measure it. All bowed, but there strangely is NO mention of Daniel! He is a type and ‘example’ of when antichrist and the false prophet command all to worship the image or die. he will have already left the earth Rev.4:1. cf Dan.3 ;Rev.13 Zep1:7; 2:2-3 ; Rev.3:10 !!!
      There are other types too in the OT.

    • Some are tired-in history happens- of ‘old’ interpretations and want a ‘change’ so now it’s the Ottoman empire NOT mentioned at all in Daniels dream interpretation! Babylon(the lion Dan.7) was the head of gold. History then informs us the next kingdom was the Medes and the Persians(a bear 7) then Greece(leopard 7) and finally Rome (the fourth beast see v7-8) which later became two ‘legs’ as per Daniel’s East and West. Then in the latter times it will be ten toes or nations that will rule through the antichrist. It will be a revived Roman empire!
      The” Prince” is antichrist who will appear for ‘one week’ or seven years. Dan.9:27 Who destroys the ‘city and sanctuary’ or Jerusalem and the temple? Dan.926 b “The PEOPLE OF the Prince who is to come…’ or antichrist. Well, it was the Romans in 70/1AD under the ROMAN commander Titus.. They were not Muslims or Arabs, but Italians.
      If one can’t see the Roman empire in Daniel’s dream of the colossus and the four beasts(antichrist called a beast) then we stop here. Dan .2:31-45 : chapt.7 In HISTORY the empire that rules the world was the Rome ‘kingdom’ succeeded Greece the third kingdom.

  3. So called Gog and Magog is the so called Jews themselves. Very few “Jews” in Israel as they arent Hebrews and very few of them are believers in any deity, but themselves. There are exceptions, but the majority of Israelis are self idolators, Communists, Socialists, mixed in with gangsters and financial swindlers. Born again Christians have been fooled into allying themselves with a godless nation of swindlers. Gog and Magog are also the symbol of London, home of swindlers and crooks (Christian, Jewish, and Muslim). Christians fundamentalists have been fooled into blaming Muslims for their own corruption. Muslims have been fooled into blaming Jews for problems they caused for themselves. Religious Jews have been fooled into following Zionsim which is self idolatry. There are true Hebrew Jews who reject Zionism. Zionism created Communism and conducts financial fraud with Anglo collaboration. Neither Turkey nor Russia nor Islamic fundamentalism existed in Ezekiel’s time. Gog and Magog are references to extinct kingdoms. The Muslims mention Gog and Magog in the Quran, though the Tafsir and Hadith say it is a reference to Central Asia. Gog and Magog are only meant to be symbolic and godless Israelis are good candidate as are the corrupt London-New York bankers. I do not believe Israel should be destroyed because there are some good Jews there, but I believe it was created illegally by corrupt Anglo-Zionists criminals. Unfortunately many Muslims have turned into raving clowns by the Anglo-CIA created Muslim Fundamentalist movement. The problem remains unsolvable, oh, wait, that benefits the puppet master!

  4. Yusuf,

    Thank you for taking the time to post. Here are my responses to some of your points.

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Christians are well aware that Jewish people reject Jesus as Messiah, and we are well aware of the high rate of atheism/secularism in Israel. This secularism is temporary, and it fulfills Bible prophecy perfectly.

    Romans 11:25-26
    I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved…

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    The land referred to as Magog in Ezekiel’s time refers to modern-day Turkey. In the coming years, it will lead a coalition including Iran, Libya, and Northern Sudan to invade Israel. This matches today’s political landscape perfectly, and fulfills Bible prophecy perfectly.

    Ezekiel 38:1-6
    The word of the LORD came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog , the chief prince of Meshech [modern-day Turkey] and Tubal [modern-day Turkey]; prophesy against him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech [modern-day Turkey] and Tubal [modern-day Turkey]. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army — your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia [Iran], Cush [Northern Sudan] and Put [Libya and North Africa] will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer [Turkey] with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah [Turkey] from the far north with all its troops — the many nations with you.

    Today, all of these nations hate Israel, and all of them are united by a common faith, Islam.

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Zionism was created by God, and Jews have been flocking back to Israel from all over the globe for many decades now. This fulfills Bible prophecy perfectly.

    Isaiah 14:32
    “The LORD has established Zion ,
    and in her his afflicted people will find refuge.”

    Ezekiel 11:17
    “Therefore say: ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will gather you [the Jewish people] from the nations and bring you back from the countries where you have been scattered, and I will give you back the land of Israel again.’

    Zechariah 8:2
    This is what the LORD Almighty says: “I am very jealous for Zion; I am burning with jealousy for her.”

    Morality in this fallen world is upside down. As such, the world hates “Zionism” because it is God’s will. What God means as a badge of honor, the world has turned into a dirty word, because the world hates God.

    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Yusuf, the Bible is different from all other books on earth for this reason:

    Isaiah 46:9-10
    I am God, and there is none like me.
    I make known the end from the beginning,
    from ancient times, what is still to come.

    The Bible is history written in advance. 100% prophetic accuracy is the seal of authenticity of the God of Israel. If you want to know who the one true God is, simply get the holy book of your choice and see if it predicts the future with 100% accuracy. No book but the Bible can do this. Believe the God of Israel and his Son, the Messiah he sent, Jesus Christ.

    John 3:16-19
    “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son [Jesus Christ], that whoever BELIEVES in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    God bless you Yusuf.

  5. Most in Turkey are Shias (they believe Muhammad’s son- in- law and cousin is the proper successor to the Caliph of Islam) and most of the people in Iran are Sunnis (they adhere to the belief that Muhammad’s father- in -law was the true successor of the prophet of Islam).
    both factions are enemies and have killed each other and still do over this dispute! I don’t see Iran teaming up with Turkey as the’ leader’ of an invasion.

    • With all due respect Dr., you got it backwards. Turkey is majority Sunni, and Iran is majority Shia. Both factions have indeed killed each other for a long time, but so what? The Bible will be proved true. In fact, the fact that Sunni and Shia fight each other is one of the (but by no means the only) fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy of iron and baked clay not adhering to each other. Turks, by the way, make up a big part of the Iranian population. They are not a majority, but they are a huge minority. Turkey and Iran will united under the flag of the Caliphate. Thank you for your comment!

      • Yes, was at work and my secretary was interrupting me about phone calls ,etc., but thought I had the correct designation! In this case reverse it or not BOTH are at very serious disagreement with each others sect of Islam. There will be no let up on this. Thanks!

      • Dr. Davis, I too believe there will be no let up in the Sunni/Shia conflict. But both groups hate Israel (and America) much more than they hate each other. Turkey and Iran will indeed join forces to attack Israel, exactly as Ezekiel 38 says they will.

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