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My name is Tom. I doubted Jesus just like the “Tom” in the Bible doubted Jesus. The “Tom” in the Bible is the Apostle Thomas, and from his doubt of the resurrected Christ we get the term, “doubting Thomas”– which means a skeptic.

Thomas doubted the resurrected Christ. But when he actually touched Christ’s crucifixion wounds, he went from skeptic to Christian. I too doubted the resurrected Christ. But when I saw the 100% scientific, historical, and prophetic accuracy of the Bible, I too became a Christian. In all my years of atheism, I never investigated the Bible. I only mocked it. This is exactly what all atheists do– 100% mockery and peer pressure, 0% intellectualism. In atheist circles, no thinking is allowed. When I undertook an intellectual investigation of the Bible’s accuracy, I went from skeptic to Christian. The Bible is 100% accurate.

Alwaysproventrue.com presents facts, and supporting evidence. Here, you rely upon logic and reason.

“Come now, let us reason together,” says the LORD. ~ Isaiah 1:18

This is the opposite of the technique used by non-Bible-believers. That is, they parade out their “experts” in science, history, and theology. These “experts” tell you what to believe– evolution, for example. They present zero evidence for their fairy tales, because no evidence exists. You are to rely solely on the “expert” status of the presenter. If you dare question the presenter, or their fairy tales, you are mocked and peer-pressured into conformity. You are made to be afraid. This is why Jesus repeatedly told us not to fear anyone but God.

While non-Bible-believers hate scrutiny of their facts, and discourage it with fear, the God of Israel is so certain of His Truth, that He mandates us to scrutinize it!

Test all things [including the Bible]… ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:21

The Bible is 100% accurate with regard to science, history, and prophecy. No other religious book on Earth can make this claim. Neither can any secular book. Facts are written in the Bible hundreds or thousands of years before science and history make the discoveries that verify them.

The Bible is always proven true.

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  1. I thank God for leading me to your blog. Thank you for standing strong in faith and truth. And nothing shall separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

  2. Hi I’ve enjoyed your site very much. However, I would like you to reconsider the Vatican. Look at Professor Walter Veith’s 2 lectures: The Mists of Time and The Islamic Connection on Youtube. Since the Vatican helped create Islam, remember Catholicism came first, then your statements are correct but the Vatican is the puppet master deflecting attention away from themselves. That’s why they created two misleading Jesuit theories of antichrist past (Antiochus Epiphanes) and Antichrist future (Damian or someone with 666 sticker on his head. But he has to come from Rome after its fall. The Bishop of Rome replaced the Ceasars. His name: Vicarius Filii Dei adds up to 666.
    Please see the videos. This identity, the reformers died for. Let’s get it perfectly right. Thanks Michael.

    • Michael,

      Thanks for your comment. The Bible gives us a huge red flag that the Vatican is not the end times system of the Antichrist:

      “Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist- denying the Father and the Son.” ~ 1 John 2:22

      The Catholic Church is certainly not a system that denies the Father and the Son. Catholics still bless themselves, “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” However, denial that God has a son is a central doctrine of Islam.

      I will look further into the teachings you mentioned. Thanks again, and God bless you!

      alwaysproventrue.com

    • Thank you for the kind words, JB! I get great encouragement from feedback like that– great way to start the New Year. Have a happy and blessed 2014!

  3. I came across your blog as I was researching some words to help me with my studies of the Bible. Although I am not scholarly able to completely agree with all your interpretations, they are by far and away the closest to what my heart and mind tell me from reading the scriptures are true. I have studied regularly for 4 years with Pastor Arnold Murray and believe most if not all of his teachings to be accurate and biblical. (If he has a hidden agenda I cannot see it) I am thoroughly enthused by your alignment with his teachings. It is so awesome to hear someone teach true doctrine especially when it comes to the rapture and not the traditions of men. It is very hard to find local churches in which to fellowship with and study word for word chapter by chapter and don’t believe in the rapture. It makes absolutely no sense that Gods people would not be here to endure. Thanks for the heartfelt research and comments. I look forward to reading more.

  4. Jim,

    I am not familiar enough with Pastor Murray to comment on his teachings, but I sincerely thank you for taking the time to write those kinds words. It is very encouraging to hear someone say they are enthused by this blog!

    I too have a very difficult time finding churches and/or fellowships where I am not the only one who rejects the popular view on the rapture. This is changing. People who reject the popular view are the minority, but the minority is growing. In the mean time, I will continue to respectfully present to my Christian brothers and sisters that which the Bible clearly states about the church being present for the Great Tribulation. I do believe many Christians will fall away from the faith once they start experiencing the Great Tribulation from which they were always told they were exempt.

    Please continue your diligent studies, and stay strong in the faith. Thank you for reading this blog. I take great encouragement from your kind words.

  5. Sorry my friend, but there really is scriptural evidence in the Bible for a Pre-Trib Rapture.
    First, the word “Rapture” = For the record, the word “rapture” comes from the Latin word “rapturo,” which in turn was a translation of the Greek verb “caught up” found in 1 Thes 4:17. You can call it the pre-trib rapture, the pre-trib rapturo, or the pre-trib caught up–it’s all the same thing:
    1 Thess 4:16 (NIV) “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.”
    This is a very good website that you should check out, specifically this section which is FULL of scriptural references: http://informedchristians.com/index.php/Articles/50-reason-why-the-rapture-must-happen-before-the-7-year-tribulation.
    Finally, there are several scriptural references in the Bible to “Keep Watch” for the Lord’s soon return that will come “like a thief in the night”. Read in Matt 24, Matt 25, Mark 13, Luke 12:35-48, and Rev 16:15 for the Lord’s commands for us to “Keep Watch”! These verses also admonish that we are not to know the day or the hour, but we are to know the season of His return. When we are raptured out of this world, no one will see Jesus in the clouds but the Believers, who were dead and who were alive, when we are caught up by Jesus. It will happen faster than the blink of an eye – a “twinkling”! The day that the Lord Jesus returns, after the 7 year tribulation, the whole world will see Him and hear Him coming as He sets his feet upon the Mt. of Olives. The Lord does not set his feet on the earth when He “catches up” His Bride from this world!
    Maranatha, friend!

    • From Your post:
      First, the word “Rapture” = For the record, the word “rapture” comes from the Latin word “rapturo,” which in turn was a translation of the Greek verb “caught up” found in 1 Thes 4:17. You can call it the pre-trib rapture, the pre-trib rapturo, or the pre-trib caught up–it’s all the same thing:

      My Response:
      Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the rapture happens BEFORE the Great Tribulation. Contrary to what you wrote, one can NOT call it the “pre-trib rapture,” or “pre-trib rapturo,” or “pre-trib caught up,” because in each of those terms you include “pre-trib.”

      From Your Post:
      1 Thess 4:16 (NIV) “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

      My Response:
      Nowhere in this passage of Scripture does it say that the rapture happens before the Great Tribulation. Why do you imply that it does? In fact, please look at the very next verse, which describes these events as happening AT the day of the Lord, not seven years BEFORE the day of the Lord.
      “Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that THE DAY OF THE LORD will come like a thief in the night.” ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:1-2 (NIV)

      From Your Post:
      This is a very good website that you should check out, specifically this section which is FULL of scriptural references:http://informedchristians.com/index.php/Articles/50-reason-why-the-rapture-must-happen-before-the-7-year-tribulation.

      My Response:
      For over three years now, I have been asking my pre-trib brothers and sisters to show me the pre-trib rapture in the BIBLE. Not a single one of them has done it. Instead, they hand me books (other than the Bible) and show me websites. I say this with respect, but you have done the same thing. Instead of showing me websites, can you simply show me the verse stating the church will be raptured before the Great Tribulation?

      From Your Post:
      There are several scriptural references in the Bible to “Keep Watch” for the Lord’s soon return that will come “like a thief in the night”. Read in Matt 24, Matt 25, Mark 13, Luke 12:35-48, and Rev 16:15 for the Lord’s commands for us to “Keep Watch”! These verses also admonish that we are not to know the day or the hour, but we are to know the season of His return.

      My Response:
      Jesus could not have possibly told his followers when his 2nd Coming would be, because he HIMSELF did not know. Therefore, he simply told them to keep watch. Pre-tribbers extrapolate this into a pre-trib rapture in which he descends to cloud level, raptures the church, REVERSES DIRECTION, and then goes back up. Please show me the Bible verse where Jesus reverses direction and goes back up– no books, and no websites please, just the Bible verse.

      Thank you for taking the time to comment, and God bless you!

      • I have just finished typing a bible lesson from someone I view as my teacher of the word. I type his lessons. I have finished part of a Revelation study that gives bible verses regarding the rapture that you asked for that state that the rapture comes before tribulation. If you would like to review this information, please give me your email address.

      • Thank you for your comment. I’d rather skip the email address and stay with this forum. What are the chapter numbers and verse numbers?

  6. My friend, if you had actually opened the web link I gave you to InformedChristians.com concerning the 50 Reasons For The Pre-Trib Rapture, you would have found all the scripture references listed there. Why did you not look there? It’s a very thorough list that was researched very painstakingly by Daniel Valles. Also, the Bible is very clear about Jesus appearing in the clouds and catching us up: the dead in Christ shall rise first, and then the living, and so we shall be with our Lord in heaven forever. We, the Bride of Christ are taken up to heaven first to attend the marriage supper of the Lamb, the Bridegroom, Jesus Christ the Lord of our Salvation. And then, on the Day of the Lord, we who are His army of Saints come back with Jesus, and that the whole world will see Jesus on a white horse and we behind him dressed in white linen on white horses and we will watch Jesus destroy the wicked His Words like a double edged sword! He is coming soon and time is running out to spread the good news of Salvation! Let’s concentrate our efforts in letting the lost know that Jesus loves them so very much and does not want to lose them to eternal damnation. Satan is ramping up his game and there is a battle going on all around us. Satan delights in distracting the Believers with minor details. I love the Lord with all my heart and trust His plan even though I may not understand everything He has said. I pray for his guidance, discernment and strength, and I pray the same for you, brother! Maranatha!

    • I want to respectfully say that I just went to the website, and I don’t see a single Bible verse there stating that the rapture will happen before the Great Tribulation– nor did you list one in your response (despite my request). This is because no such verse exists. I also requested that you show me the verse that states that Jesus will begin his descent, rapture the church, and then REVERSE DIRECTION and go back up. You failed to list this verse as well, because no such verse exists.

      You mention Satan distracting the believers with minor details. This is NOT a minor detail. Much of the church will fall away from the faith when it experiences the Great Tribulation it was always taught it would not experience. I speak with Christians who don’t even care about major world events because they tell me “we won’t be here” for the outcome of these events. Yes we will! There will be no pre-trib rapture. The pre-trib rapture is a colossal and profoundly damaging error.

      Here is the overwhelming evidence, from the Bible, that the rapture is post-trib, not pre-trib:

      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first [rapture]. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air [rapture]… the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. ~ 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, 5:2

      Look at the sequence of events: 1) The Lord begins his descent, 2) Rapture, 3) Description of these events as the “day of The Lord.” I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, did God mistakenly leave the Great Tribulation out of this sequence, or did you mistakenly add it in? I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, does God mistakenly describe these events as “the day of the Lord,” or do you mistakenly describe these events as a separate rapture that happens seven years before the day of the Lord?

      Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus begin his descent, rapture the church, then reverse direction and go back up. I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, did God mistakenly leave out the fact that Jesus is supposed to reverse direction and go back up, or did you mistakenly add it in?

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      Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a SECOND time… Hebrews 9:28

      The Bible clearly asserts two Comings of Christ– not 2.5. The church has invented a sorta-kinda coming of Christ in which he descends to cloud level, raptures the church, and then reverses direction and goes back up. However, this is nowhere in the Bible. I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, since the Bible clearly teaches two comings of Christ, why do you teach 2.5?

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      He [Christ] must remain in heaven UNTIL the time comes for God to restore everything… ~ Acts 3:21

      The Bible clearly states that Christ will remain in heaven “until the time comes for God to restore everything.” I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, why do you say that Christ will leave heaven to meet the church in the air seven years before the time comes to restore everything, when the Bible clearly states that Christ WILL NOT leave heaven until the time comes to restore everything? Did God mistakenly omit from the Bible Christ’s other exit from heaven, or did you mistakenly add it in?

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      …it is a righteous thing with God to… give you who are troubled rest with us WHEN the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance… ~ 2 Thessalonians 1:8

      Pre-trib rapture theory says the church is raptured before the Great Tribulation begins, and that Jesus returns seven years after the Great Tribulation begins. However, the Bible knows no such sequence of events. I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, why do you say rest will come seven years before Jesus is revealed in flaming vengeance, when the Bible states that this rest comes when Jesus is revealed in flaming vengeance?

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      …there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be [the Great Tribulation]… “Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days… they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather [rapture] together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ~ Jesus Christ, Matthew 24:20-31

      The Bible asserts two Comings of Christ, not 2.5. The First Coming was in a manger in Bethlehem. The 2nd Coming is at the Day of the Lord, immediately prior to which (not seven years prior to which) God will “gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” Jesus Christ himself tells us that this happens after the Great Tribulation. I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters: Why do you say that Jesus gathers together his elect before the Great Tribulation in a sorta-kinda coming that is nowhere in the Bible, when Jesus himself says that he will gather his elect after the Great Tribulation at his 2nd Coming?

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      Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMPET. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. ~ 1 Corinthians 15:51-52

      I have heard it taught countless times by pre-trib Bible teachers that this “last trumpet” is before the Great Tribulation. Yet the Bible clearly asserts another trumpet after the Great Tribulation:

      …there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be [the Great Tribulation]… “Immediately after the tribulation of those days… they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they will gather [rapture] together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ~ Jesus Christ, Matthew 24:20-31

      I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters: Who got it wrong, God or the person who invented the pre-trib rapture?

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      Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him… that day will not come UNTIL… the man of lawlessness is revealed… ~ 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

      The popular “Doctrine of Imminence” asserts that the return of Christ can happen any time, and has no pre-condition. I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, why do you say that the return of Christ has no pre-condition when the Bible clearly states that Christ will not return until the man of lawlessness is revealed?

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      I will tear them to pieces and go away; I will carry them off, with no one to rescue them. Then I will go back to my place UNTIL they admit their guilt. And they will seek my face; in their misery they will earnestly seek me.” ~ Hosea 5:14-6:1

      The man-made “Doctrine of Imminence” asserts that the return of Christ can happen any time, and has no pre-condition. But the Bible clearly asserts at least two pre-conditions for Christ’s return: 1) The man of lawlessness must be revealed, 2) Israel must admit their guilt. I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters: Who got it wrong, God or the person who invented the “Doctrine of Imminence”?

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      To the seven churches in the province of Asia… to [1] Ephesus, [2] Smyrna, [3] Pergamum, [4] Thyatira, [5] Sardis, [6] Philadelphia and [7] Laodicea. ~ Revelaton 1:4-11

      Pre-trib theory asserts that because the church is not mentioned in Revelation after Chapter 3, it must have been raptured out. Sure, the church is not mentioned after Chapter 3 of Revelation, but it is not mentioned before or during Chapter 3 either. The seven letters in Revelation are not addressed to “the church.” They are addressed to seven specific churches in a specific nation– Turkey.

      The seven churches of Revelation are in modern-day turkey.

      Jesus is loudly directing our end-times attention to Turkey because the Islamic Ottoman Turkish Empire will revive in the end-times (and is doing so before our eyes) to become the Antichrist’s end-times beast empire. However, this specificity does not agree with our Protestant tradition of expecting the Antichrist to come from Europe and a revived Roman Empire, so we simply ignore it. Replacing “the seven churches in the Province of Asia,” with “the church” is nothing more than replacement theology.

      I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, why do you disagree with replacement theology when it comes to churches giving themselves permission to replace Israel as God’s chosen people, but not when it comes to replacing “the seven churches in the Province of Asia [Turkey]” with “the church”?

      I respectfully ask my pre-trib brothers and sisters, by what right do you ignore the geography to which the Son of God directs our end-times attention when he addresses not one, not two, not three, but seven churches in that geography?

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      I respectfully suggest to my pre-trib brothers and sisters that the pre-trib viewpoint is reached by doing the opposite of what the Bereans did:

      Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. ~ Acts 17:11

      The Bereans examined the words of the Bible to verify the words of Bible teachers. However, I have observed (with few exceptions) that asking a Christian to rationally consider a Bible verse that contradicts his favorite Bible teacher is not going to win you any popularity contests (to say the least). But that’s okay, friendship with the world is enmity with God. If the Bible does not match what our favorite teachers say, we must disregard our favorite teachers, not the Bible.

      Another observation I’ve made is that many Christians don’t know the difference between the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord.

      The Great Tribulation: The Antichrist unleashing hell on earth
      Day of the Lord: God’s wrath via the 2nd Coming of Christ
      Which one of these will the church not suffer? Just ask the Bible.

      For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:8-10

      The church will absolutely, positively, 100% go through the Great Tribulation. The Bible makes this so clear!

      All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. ~ Mark 13:13

      but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. ~ Matthew 24:13

      To him who overcomes and does my will to the end , I will give authority over the nations ~ Jesus Christ, Revelation 2:26

      Note, these verses do not say, “he who stands firm until seven years before the end will be saved.”

      A speeding train called the Great Tribulation is approaching, and legions in the church are standing on the tracks. They have been taught that they will be raptured off the tracks before they have anything to worry about, and they never bothered to do as the Bereans did– that is, to verify what they heard from Bible teachers with what is actually written in the Bible. These are godly people learning the word from godly Bible teachers, and everyone involved has the best of intentions. Nonetheless, when the train hits, many will be shocked and disillusioned, and will fall away from the faith.

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      Again, thank you for taking the time to comment. Let me say that your eagerness to discuss this topic and your willingness to search out its Biblical foundations puts you (in my opinion) in a small minority within Christianity. It’s a minority that takes joy in discussing the things of God. Within Christianity, I find it easier to find discussions about sports, TV, or movies than the Bible.

      So, I truly appreciate your willingness to engage this topic, even if we have disagreements. I do believe it puts a smile on God’s face when his children are willing to discuss, debate, and refine each other with regard to the Bible. Blessings to you my friend!

  7. …there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be [the Great Tribulation]… “Immediately after the tribulation of those days… they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they will gather [rapture] together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ~ Jesus Christ, Matthew 24:20-31

    My friend, I am going to concentrate on something very important here that you are missing. Again, when the Rapture takes place, no one will physically see Jesus coming because he will come as a ‘thief in the night’ at a day and hour when no one expects Him, BUT, we are to know the season of His return and that’s why we are to ‘Keep Watch’. Jesus does NOT come physically to earth to catch us (The Believers – The Church) up to heaven and there is no yo-yo effect. He is up in the clouds and snatches the dead in Christ, and then the living, in Christ, to heaven. We have to be with Jesus in heaven before we can come back to earth with him for the Final Battle which WE will be watching take place with Jesus!
    This part of scripture here (above) is NOT speaking about when the Rapture takes place, it is afterwards during the Tribulation. The ‘Elect’ are the 144,000 Jews that are sealed in Christ during the Tribulation and who are gathered (not caught up) BY THE ANGELS (NOT by Jesus) from the 4 corners of the earth.
    By-the-way, Alan Horvath does a GREAT job explaining the Hebrew meaning to “Keep Watch”:

    • You have once again not shown me the Bible verse in which Jesus begins his descent, raptures the church, then reverses direction and goes back up. The clouds are not heaven. The clouds are the clouds. You have Jesus leaving heaven (in direction contradiction of Acts 3:21), descending to cloud level, rapturing the church, then REVERSING DIRECTION to go back up to heaven for a few years. This is nowhere in the Bible.

      You have also again not shown me the Bible verse stating that the rapture happens before the Great Tribulation. This is because no such verse exists.

      Finally, in your defense of VERSES that are not in the Bible, you cite PEOPLE who are not in the Bible– Valles and Horvath.

      I’ll stick with the Bible, and the inspired writers who wrote it.

      The conversation is over. God bless you.

      • Hey, thanks for your awesome site.

        When do the 144000 get sealed?

        Also, John had likely never seen a tiger. But his description of the beast in rev 13 sounds like he was describing a tiger in the best way he could. Your thoughts?
        Thanks

  8. Kathryn,

    Thank you for your kind words about the website, and for your great questions.

    Just before the 144,000 are sealed in Revelation Chapter 6, we read this:

    I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. ~ Revelation 6:12-14

    This sounds like what Matthew describes as happening AFTER the Great Tribulation.

    “Immediately AFTER the distress of those days [post-tribulation] “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ ~ Matthew 24:29

    Therefore, I believe the 144,000 are sealed AFTER the Great Tribulation.

    As Revelation 6 goes on, we see that earth’s inhabitants realize that these terrible celestial anomalies signal the 2nd Coming of Christ (the wrath of the Lamb).

    Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the WRATH OF THE LAMB!” ~ Revelation 6:15-17

    Therefore, I believe we can narrow down the time window for the sealing of the 144,000 even further. That is, we can now say it occurs post-tribulation, but pre-wrath. Could it be that just as the Antichrist, during his days of wrath (i.e., the Great Tribulation) passed over those who took his seal on their foreheads that Messiah, during HIS days of wrath (i.e., the wrath of the Lamb / i.e., the day of the Lord / i.e., the 2nd Coming of Christ), will pass over those who took his seal on their foreheads? I believe the text indicates something of this sort.

    Regarding the tiger question. That is very interesting and I had never heard it before. I suppose John could have been describing a tiger to the best of his ability.

    The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. ~ Revelation 13:2

    What I am more certain of is that he was describing a beast that was a conglomeration of the previous three beasts:

    1) Lion = Babylonian Empire of antiquity, modern-day Iraq

    2) Bear = Medo-Persian Empire of antiquity, modern-day Medes are the Kurds, modern-day Persia is Iran, Iran being the part of the bear that was raised up one side (Daniel 7:5), and Iran being the horn of the ram that grew higher than the other horn (Daniel 8:3), Iran is more powerful than the Kurds (understatement!)

    3) Leopard = Turkish (“Greek,” Ionian) Empire of antiquity, modern-day Turkey

    That’s how I read it. But like the good book says, test all things (including what I say).

    Again, thank you very much for your kind words, and your great questions!

  9. I really appreciate Laura’s zeal for the LORD. My hope is that through her dialogue with you in this comments post, YVHV has loosened the scales from her eyes(and others) and allowed her to see the truth. For God reveals himself to us whom seek Him. ( This also comes with a condition-that we seek Him with all our heart, mind and soul-not for our desire to be right!) The rapture is Satan’s most deadliest scheme of them all and it is done with peace and cunningly devised theories, which are facilitated by mens ears which want to be tickled and comforted with an easy way out of suffering. (The Bible calls these the traditions of men) People have been asked to endure from the beginning of this world age-now all of a sudden we are just going to be Raptured out of here not to endure through the the birth pains of our new world age in which we will reign forever. It simply doesn’t align with the consistant teaching of the rest of the WORD. The rapture simply is not inline with the truly simplistic and consistent teaching of the Bible from beginning to end. I truly am thankful for the way God enables you to articulate your responses in a manner in which people can reference for themselves. Although in truth most are not willing to use the KJ version with their Strongs concordance to rightly divide the WORD and understand the simplicity which is in Christ whom the Bible speaks of since the beginning. This is because most people simply will not be honest with themselves and see how truly sinful we really are. We love to justify in an any manner possible as not to take responsibility for ourselves. We cannot truly be a part of Christ without suffering the consequences of our sinful nature. This is not to say this is what Christ wants for us, for our God is a loving God not wanting that any should perish, However suffering in patience and love is the very thing HE set out to teach us as he humbled himself in human form to dwell among us.

    May God continue to Bless you,
    Jim
    P.S I would love an opportunity to study with you. As I stated in my earlier post months ago, it is difficult to find others willing to study rightly dividing the Word.
    Maybe their are others in the Denver, CO area whom are eager to study Gods truth without human agenda. If so let me know.

    • Jim,

      Thank you for your kind words, and your well-reasoned observations. I don’t know of any study groups in the Denver area, but if I learn of any, I will let you know.

      Please continue to study and seek the Lord as you are doing now. I can only speak from my personal experience, but it seems that people like you, me, and Kathryn are (as Kathryn stated) sprinkled like salt, miles from one another. Maybe that is so that we can season the ground around us. I am seeing slowly but surely that God is opening eyes in my personal circle of Christian friends.

      Blessings, and thank you!

  10. Hoo boy. You’re not the only one, Jim, who’d like to study amongst the like-mindedness. But I gather we are sprinkled like salt miles and miles from one another. And having been in china for the last three years, tho I did visit a good under-the-radar church, I am hungry for fellowship. Actually miss my Chinese church.
    Anyway, I have a question. May seem silly. How long would it take one angel to seal 144,000 people’s foreheads?

    • Kathryn,

      Thank you for your bravery in attending the Chinese church. We here in the West can certainly learn from the bravery and persistence of our brethren in China.

      Regarding your question about the angel. Consider that it took the angel of the Lord just one night to slay 185,000 Assyrians:

      Then the angel of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning — there were all the dead bodies! ~ Isaiah 37:36

      In addition, observe that Revelation 7:3 uses the plural “we” when speaking of the angels sealing the 144,000– so it may not be just one angel.

      “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until WE put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” ~ Rev 7:3

      I tend to suspect that this “seal” may be more literal than we are accustomed to believe in common Christian culture. The enemies of God wear a literal (not figurative) seal on their foreheads. Look at news photos of Hamas, or any other group of demonically possessed Islamists, and you will see that they are literally wearing a seal (headband) on their foreheads. The seal reads in Arabic: in the name of Allah. Well, the friends of Yahweh will have Yahweh’s name, and Yeshua’s name, written on THEIR foreheads just as the enemies of God have Allah’s name written on theirs.

      No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and HIS NAME WILL BE ON THEIR FOREHEADS. ~ Revelation 22:3

      Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had HIS NAME AND HIS FATHER’S NAME WRITTEN ON THEIR FOREHEADS. ~ Revelation 14:1

      Having said that, it may be the case the 144,000 each put the seal on themselves, inspired or instructed by angels, just as God’s enemies place the seal on themselves with inspiration or instruction from demons.

      Blessings, and thank you as always!

      • Thanks. But can’t claim much bravery there. The Lord gives strength where we have none of our own.
        I think standing firm for the faith in close relationships can be braver!

        I would strongly disagree that we place a seal on ourselves.

        What connection do you think the sealing might have with Ezekiel 3:8-9?

  11. Great question. I don’t know. I never thought about it.

    “But I will make you as unyielding and hardened as they are. I will make your forehead like the hardest stone, harder than flint. Do not be afraid of them or terrified by them, though they are a rebellious house.” ~ Ezekiel 3:8-9

    I believe that those sealed will literally have the name of YHVH written on their foreheads. The template for this (to me, at least) is the plain literal way that God’s enemies have the name of their god written on their foreheads.

    As for the verse you mentioned, as I said, I haven’t given it much thought, but let me tell you what comes to mind. When a friend of mine found out I was now a Christian, we got into some discussions about God, evolution, etc. I didn’t back down one inch in my assertion of the facts. This is uncommon.

    Usually, when a Christian debates a non-Christian, the Christian surrenders quickly. Typically, they use any number of tired cliches as their white flag of surrender– “well, I know where I’m going when I die,” or “well, I know God loves me and that’s all that matters,” etc., etc. While these cute sayings are true, they are milk, not meat. There are two problems.

    1) Most Christians don’t know (and don’t care to learn) that ALL the facts of science and history are on our side (as this website demonstrates). They don’t know or care because they have been taught some abstract concept of “faith” which detaches it from proof. This is a fatal error. There is nothing BUT proof for what we believe. This abundance of proof fills a treasure trove of argumentative and debating capital that we waste.

    2) Even if more Christians did know the proof for their faith, many wouldn’t wield it in debate because they have a nonsensical image in their mind of Jesus as hippie peacenik whose highest virtue is that he is “nice” and would never correct anyone. No one was more blunt than Jesus. The fascinating thing is that I notice this bluntness in my Israeli friends to this day. They seem to be able to say whatever is on their minds, and continue on like it’s nothing– no hard feelings. On the other hand, we here in the West are very sensitive.

    The moral of this story is that, after I asserted my facts and would not back down, my friend told me that they now understood why Christianity is the world’s largest religion– Christians can be very persistent! LOL. As we should be!!!!!!!!! Anyway, God-given, God-ordained, God-enabled, good-old-fashioned, hard-headed persistence is what I read in Ezekiel 3:8-9.

    Thank you!

    • Kathryn I believe you know very well there is no debate. I can tell by your posts you know the truth, please don’t let cunning people lure you and decieve you into rat holes.The LORD is clear “do not participate in in idle debate” Read Ephesians chapters 4 and 5:1-21 Debating the word of God invites confusion and could very well entrap a believer into false doctrine. I would encourage you to simply let the WORD of God our Father YHVH gave to us to speak for itself abd let the chips fall where they may and make no apologies for it.

      • Thank you brother for your exhortation.
        1 Corinthians 2:2-5
        For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

        A difficult, yet straightforward scripture. Hard to wrap one’s brain around that, but after all, we don’t convince or convict, the
        Holy Spirit does.

        What a narrow road! There are few who find it, truly.

  12. Kathryn, I am not sure what that means as far as what the topic was we were discussing. Unless you are saying you agree. Perhaps you could explain. I totally missed it. Perhaps I have offended you in some way which was not intentional.

    • Yes, I agree. I needed to hear what you said, because although I know there should be no debate – prayer is far more effective – I often forget this and want to convince people in some way. Actually, that any of us believe is a miracle.

  13. Thanks for sharing more about yourself, Tom. I also was a “mocker” and a hypocrite, since I judged the bible before I even read it. The scriptures opened my eyes.

  14. I am beyond excited to find this blog! Thank you for heeding God’s call. I have always been fascinated with the Bible, but it has always been incredibly difficult to find others to discuss its teachings in the manner that you do here. There was always something about the rapture that just didn’t add up to me, and you have helped to clarify so much. I’ve been reading for hours now. I could stay up all night! I can’t wait to dig in further. Thanks again! God bless

  15. Tom,

    Bless the Lord for His true gift ministries to the church. Thank you for being obedient and working so diligently to uncover such treasures from the sum of God’s Word…including the Apocrypha! I have been writing down questions that I have and praying over them to the Lord for His answers in due season. Already, your insights have answered so many of them!
    For your courage and boldness and love, I thank the Lord! Preach the WOrd, in season and out of season. Endure hardness as a good soldier. Your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

  16. Like Karla, your site helps me answer questions I have had and helps give me hope that our country isn’t lost. This helped rejuvenate my spirit. You logical puzzling out of the messages in the word, have lit a flame of curiosity in me and made the bible a mystery thriller written in code (that only believers can decipher) that we are all part of, instead of just a rule book and an ancient boring history book.

    You obviously have a lot of historical knowledge, which I lack, and see concrete connections that I would never see. I tend to see the concrete emotional and local messages and abstract global messages. Enjoy the concrete global connections you make.

    Thanks for taking us on this journey with you.

  17. I’d like to have your input to wrestle with some speculation regarding a previous question. Don’t want to make it public, yet. Rather you didn’t post this….but maybe it’s automatic. If you can email me, I won’t abuse the privilege.

  18. Finally. .someone who can reason! Everything on this about page is exactly what I’m trying to get others ( Preachers and the like. .)to understand. To pay attention. To not be deceived. To be prepared. It’s not going to happen, the way they think is going to happen.
    There’s not going to be an easy way out like they think there will be. They ask. .well what difference does it make? We will all die and still go to heaven anyway. All I can do is smh.

    I look forward to browsing the rest of your blogs.

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